watch
now
The
boss
of
Google
DeepMind
pushed
back
on
a
claim
from
Meta’s
artificial
intelligence
chief
alleging
the
company
is
pushing
worries
about
AI’s
existential
threats
to
humanity
to
control
the
narrative
on
how
best
to
regulate
the
technology.
In
an
interview
with
CNBC’s
Arjun
Kharpal,
Hassabis
said
that
DeepMind
wasn’t
trying
to
achieve
“regulatory
capture”
when
it
came
to
the
discussion
on
how
best
to
approach
AI.
It
comes
as
DeepMind
is
closely
informing
the
U.K.
government
on
its
approach
to
AI
ahead
of
a
pivotal
summit
on
the
technology
due
to
take
place
on
Wednesday
and
Thursday.
Over
the
weekend,
Yann
LeCun,
Meta’s
chief
AI
scientist,
said
that
DeepMind’s
Hassabis,
along
with
OpenAI
CEO
Sam
Altman,
Anthropic
CEO
Dario
Amodei
were
“doing
massive
corporate
lobbying”
to
ensure
only
a
handful
of
big
tech
companies
end
up
controlling
AI.
He
also
said
they
were
giving
fuel
to
critics
who
say
that
highly
advanced
AI
systems
should
be
banned
to
avoid
a
situation
where
humanity
loses
control
of
the
technology.
“If
your
fearmongering
campaigns
succeed,
they
will
*inevitably*
result
in
what
you
and
I
would
identify
as
a
catastrophe:
a
small
number
of
companies
will
control
AI,”
LeCun
said
on
X,
the
platform
formerly
known
as
Twitter,
on
Sunday.
“Like
many,
I
very
much
support
open
AI
platforms
because
I
believe
in
a
combination
of
forces:
people’s
creativity,
democracy,
market
forces,
and
product
regulations.
I
also
know
that
producing
AI
systems
that
are
safe
and
under
our
control
is
possible.
I’ve
made
concrete
proposals
to
that
effect.”
LeCun
is
a
big
proponent
of
open-source
AI,
or
AI
software
that
is
openly
available
to
the
public
for
research
and
development
purposes.
This
is
opposed
to
“closed”
AI
systems,
the
source
code
of
which
is
kept
a
secret
by
the
companies
producing
it.
LeCun
said
that
the
vision
of
AI
regulation
Hassabis
and
other
AI
CEOs are aiming
for
would
see
open-source
AI
“regulated
out
of
existence”
and
allow
only
a
small
number
of
companies
from
the
West
Coast
of
the
U.S.
and
China
control
the
technology.
Meta
is
one
of
the
largest
technology
companies
working
to
open-source
its
AI
models.
The
company’s
LLaMa
large
language
model
(LLM)
software
is
one
of
the
biggest
open-source
AI
models
out
there,
and
has
advanced
language
translation
features
built
in.
In
response
to
LeCun’s
comments,
Hassabis
said
Tuesday:
“I
pretty
much
disagree
with
most
of
those
comments
from
Yann.”
“I
think
the
way
we
think
about
it
is
there’s
probably
three
buckets
or
risks
that
we
need
to
worry
about,”
said
Hassabis.
“There’s
sort
of
near
term
harms
things
like
misinformation,
deepfakes,
these
kinds
of
things,
bias
and
fairness
in
the
systems,
that
we
need
to
deal
with.”
“Then
there’s
sort
of
the
misuse
of
AI
by
bad
actors
repurposing
technology,
general-purpose
technology
for
bad
ends
that
they
were
not
intended
for.
That’s
a
question
about
proliferation
of
these
systems
and
access
to
these
systems.
So
we
have
to
think
about
that.”
“And
then
finally,
I
think
about
the
more
longer-term
risk,
which
is
technical
AGI
[artificial
general
intelligence]
risk,”
Hassabis
said.
“So
the
risk
of
themselves
making
sure
they’re
controllable,
what
value
do
you
want
to
put
into
them
have
these
goals
and
make
sure
that
they
stick
to
them?”
Hassabis
is
a
big
proponent
of
the
idea
that
we
will
eventually
achieve
a
form
of
artificial
intelligence
powerful
enough
to
surpass
humans
in
all
tasks
imaginable,
something
that’s
referred
to
in
the
AI
world
as
“artificial
general
intelligence.”
Hassabis
said
that
it
was
important
to
start
a
conversation
about
regulating
potentially
superintelligent
artificial
intelligence
now
rather
than
later,
because
if
it
is
left
too
long,
the
consequences
could
be
grim.
“I
don’t
think
we
want
to
be
doing
this
on
the
eve
of
some
of
these
dangerous
things
happening,”
Hassabis
said.
“I
think
we
want
to
get
ahead
of
that.”
Meta
was
not
immediately
available
for
comment
when
contacted
by
CNBC.
Cooperation
with
China
Both
Hassabis
and
James
Manyika,
Google’s
senior
vice
president
of
research,
technology
and
society,
said
that
they
wanted
to
achieve
international
agreement
on
how
best
to
approach
the
responsible
development
and
regulation
of
artificial
intelligence.
watch
now
Manyika
said
he
thinks
it’s
a
“good
thing”
that
the
U.K.
government,
along
with
the
U.S.
administration,
agree
there
is
a
need
to
reach
global
consensus
on
AI.
“I
also
think
that
it’s
going
to
be
quite
important
to
include
everybody
in
that
conversation,”
Manyika
added.
“I
think
part
of
what
you’ll
hear
often
is
we
want
to
be
part
of
this,
because
this
is
such
an
important
technology,
with
so
much
potential
to
transform
society
and
improve
lives
everywhere.”
One
point
of
contention
surrounding
the
U.K.
AI
summit
has
been
the
attendance
of
China.
A
delegation
from
the
Chinese
Ministry
of
Science
and
Technology
is
due
to
attend
the
event
this
week.
That
has
stirred
feelings
of
unease
among
some
corners
of
the
political
world,
both
in
the
U.S.
government
and
some
of
Prime
Minister
Rishi
Sunak’s
own
ranks.
These
officials
are
worried
that
China’s
involvement
in
the
summit
could
pose
certain
risks
to
national
security,
particularly
as
Beijing
has
a
strong
influence
over
its
technology
sector.
Asked
whether
China
should
be
involved
in
the
conversation
surrounding
artificial
intelligence
safety,
Hassabis
said
that
AI
knows
no
borders,
and
that
it
required
coordination
from
actors
in
multiple
countries
to
get
to
a
level
of
international
agreement
on
the
standards
required
for
AI
.
“This
technology
is
a
global
technology,”
Hassabis
said.
“It’s
really
important,
at
least
on
a
scientific
level,
that
we
have
as
much
dialogue
as
possible.”
Asked
whether
DeepMind
was
open
as
a
company
to
working
with
China,
Hassabis
responded:
“I
think
we
have
to
talk
to
everyone
at
this
stage.”
U.S.
technology
giants
have
shied
away
from
doing
commercial
work
in
China,
particularly
as
Washington
has
applied
huge
pressure
on
the
country
on
the
technology
front.
